Monastic History

00:00
00:00
Audio loading...

Welcome! You can log in or create an account to save favorites, edit keywords, transcripts, and more.

Serial: 
NC-00335

Keywords:

Suggested Keywords:

Description: 

Monastic History Class

Photos: 
Notes: 

#set-monastic-history, Syrian monasticism

Auto-Generated Transcript

a recording now ah yes we are okay we left we left off at the written rules in the syrian monastic
experience and basically we'd have three three rules on the first rule is attributed to f from so the rule center from maybe call
it is not by from it's not remove that from
but
that were differences a bag
people who who wrote it had some connection with their from alice they looked towards the metro as a mentor probably than this has come from
yeah now well up until the present that patiently until the surgery or to it
this is the most general of the rule if you're looking for particular is if you're looking for for laws and and very thorough monastic rule this is not the a book to there's just a very general almost something you can look over altogether
either
wow
however it does if if your liturgically motivated you can look at the role of f from a fine to specifics and particular areas regarding
how we should sing the songs or ah what you're scared should be at liturgy as along you know little things like that regarding the liturgical life on liturgical department cetera
and there's a little section on communal life are particularly regarding obedience that is worth looking out and that is
the basic spirit of obedience towards superiors from the syria point of view and also how much should behave to one another
that would get would be interesting to look at all if you want something a little dry particular a little war on
what do i want am i looking for
detail a little more detail with the the rule of bravo i didn't know if i'm pronouncing that correctly rather not
this is a much more precise in specific detail monastic view of this sort of thing you'd expect to see as a monastic rule if you're familiar with the western monastic rules
ah
and pink the or the rule of the lock symbols or philip sails
is interesting from the point of view that it almost seems like a on reform rule
so this is a little bit later on and it's already dealing with our people of sloughed off and are minute monks are in need of reformation and so it goes into that into the particular is of reformation fighting against relaxation of
the monastic life and how to keep up the standards of the monastic like that
so there's dislike the this is the tracklist
this is the syriac trackless movement in syria sister showed me
experience for us this i mean you could look at that way
on how how does monasticism fit into popular religion in syria them
well
we've already discussed how how long
how members of the monastic movement in syria were inserted themselves into
the life of a people they're culturally
also religiously how contact even the anchor creates ah was a hands on contact often wear this with certain ways regarding hospitality
was coming through also that they were doing hands-on work our church work and later on you have most of the bishops coming from the monastic ranks
well the people even from the
beginning stages of syriac monasticism so the the fringe stuff we talked about first the stabbings and dendrite can on the local people looked upon a they probably thought they would have crazy but they also they also really revered these
people really revered if the fall life on
commitment that they gave to to their their a monastic experience and so they looked at them as the martyrs of cereal so the ideal of martyrdom literally came back to into syria through monasticism so that white martin
he didn't you you know the it worked in syria they considered them the martyrs
and chris many of them did die standing with their hands outstretched him but not
so little
little fiercer january a little fierce form of monastic witness than we've seen elsewhere
but a monastics in and in the syrian experience and kept alive a strong idealism regarding the being a martyr by by living a monastic games are literally unto death
and so people began as i mentioned before especially with the simian stylized people began coming to them regularly for spiritual guidance
and also for healing
and during times of trouble and there are plenty of times of trouble coming head
on it would be the monks to whom the people and the secular powers looked to for mediation
or for guidance
and needless to say as in every place i know a monastic history the gymnastics of syria had a strong influence on literature and cold
it just seems to be part of the beast
we carry village with us i love for them achieve and we affect the church around us by our verducci
i will by the way i'm going to give you for more maps next time when we meet on to of them on an africa monasticism africa which isn't at that time it is none at all all that prevalent of will have augustan there and then are also on some maps riga
adding the barbaric nations
so if you want to bone up on your bobbin three your memory banks regarding you know these these invasions move to a one discussion on
god the visigoths lomborg time for health and after girls there's all kinds of them
the golf to me i mean there isn't really what's important to us
especially in all the gothic groups especially to what happens to monasticism in a present a france and germany
ah profound influence and shaped are shaped monasticism do not change to the bit and and helped to open it up in those areas
on there was a strong role in the church that monasticism wants to play and serial what one probably that wouldn't have been anticipated except that that's how it worked time in history and you have an awful lot of monastics becoming deacons and priests
in order to serve
the people are in syria and to work in the local church especially dredge shortages times of shortage or played or calamities know type again when enough priests got a golfer whatever
and of course later on as i mentioned increasingly so more and more the bishops are going to be x marks are going to come from the from the ranks of the monks
ah
the syrian church did not have to not monastics did not have to worry about ah
the syriac monks taking over the episcopacy or taking over the whole children generally speaking in this area and more than in some other areas were indeed the monastics did take over the local church
etc
in syria and they didn't they had no ambition in this regard and then includes the bishops they did their job they considered it martyrdom and if they were appointed or elected or consecrated they did their job that they didn't have a lot of ambition yeah
the dickens and praised the same from the monastic racks they went up did their job serve the pupil but they weren't all that interested in political intrigue clichy as to politics power etc
and so basically with the syrian church had was ideal from earth and plenty the local churches ten point is that whole a whole available resource sort of a pool of lot of workers and of course nowadays you know lot of anger benedictine monasteries are the same and have been this century
we were all the priests growth at weekends and
do pasture of duty in parishes help out you know good to parishes the seven or eight mass and sort of it and take four of them
ah
that that's that's common well here they were doing it also and
and the local church was very on
i'm thankful for that for that term for that help especially since it was there were no strings attached
ah this are helped a to integrate monasticism into the whole syrian picture during these centuries but also as the bishops became more numerous riverbanks boxing and canada monastic pre
peace and deacons throughout doing work on
more and more they moved into other areas and so is sort of like a missionary activity going on in georgia for instance that son
eastern europe georgia
and on arabia armenia the armenian churches and flourishing for centuries and centuries
are a lot of syria a monk clerics went into these areas and ah
taught and served
the people there and spread christianity
so just in general going to what are some of the various features we've seen again
yeah no syrian monasticism are in somebody
i'm one of the more surprising although we shouldn't be too surprised to see this ah since we've already looked at the anchorage three in egypt
but to most people who don't know monastic history it would seem ironic that one of the prime important fundamentals of monastic spirituality and life would be hospitality but again here in syria you have even those anchors is crusty old ankara
it's building up guest houses or building up hospices and ends in order to take care of the pilgrims in order to the house the poor in some cases in order to take her to said although we don't have a lot of evidence for that in syria like we did in in capita
oh show with bezels i mean eleazar a strong with basil and this type of monasticism evidently they believed we had it in syria but they don't have a lot of first hand evidence regarding the actual taken care of sick
can take care of the poor the needy pilgrimage yes that was so especially the large larger monitors as large sunovia that developed are in syria on this was their big thing
the sort of like have him in attached to the monster
they had a very strong that has been monastics have a very strong impact and influence on the lay people in syria
and ugh this was the source now neurotic the of the religious wrong and we're going to look at the lake
the powers that be syria this was the constant blowing their side these guys and nasty because the monastic sincere were constantly coming to the aid of the poor and the homeless and the on the needy and and attacking the lay rulers for it up hating these new
he's so they are constantly digging away at bay rollers to better the conditions of the poor in syria
ah another activity that they in syria were involved in which is going to become more and more prominent in subsequent
generations of subsequent centuries and not just in syria that southern syria and more so even in the west and that is the ransom of slaves
you have a number of months who devote themselves or their lives to rent and enslaved or to get in some cases giving their you know there's a lot of slavery we're in a time where if you're a slave that's it i mean if you're if you've got slave drivers authors slave masters who have
you know just taken over a group of people from an area and off they go to the markets and there's no way to get around it i mean you're and property
now
ah later on with the whole islamic thing that's going to become much more and that's where the worst thing is involved with this whole ransom in slaves
i was born on september twenty fourth in the old church that was the our lady of ransom new i remember that our lady of answer
it was a feast honoring this this type of thing catholics and then an order evolved and this was their feast and they used to you know give their lives for to salute to let a slave girl
or work with the slaves visit them in prison than temperature
what's the name of the order
hmm would you say
ah
didn't they get one arm don't think that people became the ah
that's why know
the tone something i forget but anyway i mean that it just goes right down into the or fifteen sixteen seventeen century from kansas with people still and slavery isn't gone by any means today is the whole white slavery market still very active very cindy
mr and beneath the surface or underground
but they're still going on
so fragmented from
anyway these syria syria monks were involved in this sort of thing more so in a visiting of the prisons you slaves caring for their physical needs rather than renting them but some of them do that sort of repulsive
and as i mentioned already intellectually and culturally this is the wants the monks are the ones who are studying the mumps or the ones who are writing who are teaching who are getting groups together for studies and for intellectual pursuit
choose
very begun on manuscripts and books very high reverence the i have a quote here
from our syriac monastery three monastery regarding the library
which the a sister library and they want to use this quote to make a sign for our library everyone who takes the codex to read or to co-lead and does not return it
or damages to copy anathema will strike him the leprosy of hussey on his soul and the body and the fate of judas betrayed autocrat in other words bring back your book
oh
there was a tremendous literary output by f from especially after that his whole little cadre of followers and disciples that head around him immense output and lot of this output was just translating great quirks into syria and in some cases we no longer huh
have degree greek manuscripts we've never seen them but we have this area copies made by these guys and for posterity as it turns out
also there's a number of a large number of the lives of some of these holy monks in syria written in syria in the original
and also on collections of personal musings monastic urinate longings that have that have made it down to the centuries you have their own scripts of this awesome
as far as teaching goes there was some teaching if nothing like what we saw my bazillion monastics and somehow where that's part of the game plan
ah not so sure they did it to fill a need and then and only and only then when the monastery was big enough to handle this sort of thing so as mainly the bigger sunovia in syria that actually started with school or built to school or if they can
wouldn't build a school they actually held the school in the monastery but that was less and needless to say less
desirable
on the main education work in this regard was for
the actual monastic formation program
four cats humans for the local church so people to get categorized
and also just you know book learning the three hours for the people in the local area if there was no other way to help education they would provide
so that you know me syria months of doing it up so what started out as are
rather bizarre behavior monastic view speaking and remember now while we're talking about the schools the there still are some of these statics and the revered only people also the pillars in london he also these large monasteries doing a lot of out of
social work a lot of contemplative are living with the ministry of hospitality attached
on a lot of them going on to active ministry the fifth century fourth century sixth century
a lot of becoming bishops
missionary
you know out trust to armenia georgia arabia
all it's coming from that initial
seemingly rather strange
monastic or chrism and in syria
anything at all about our discussion which when three classes i think or three and a half
the syrian monasticism
at syria become mostly christian at this point your heart with the i'm just know there's a lot of people who are just local pagans awesome
there's also some various colds now from the east philosophical colts and religious cults that are just like in the other areas from
ah but a lot of them are christian in syria

it must have been of wales's church see figure all of these that's when your standings with you
with his time when which one as tourists from all these to
that you must be very much alive or was an unusual outside of christianity and of course you get the whole monoxide
heresy going that whole thing which ship syriac church century when it is one
that set of search your name
costs just to the it's a little bit later while some of what we talked about it was very beginnings we've been talking mainly forth to fix the seventh century
here for the searing
okay anything regarding on the work of months by adjustment
any reactions comments
on your reader
what's the last
the last reading in there in the first volume is that are like a
the was colombo was all the way to that yeah oh hell
twitter's the way through
really
did you have the opportunity to read it
you know about i thought you said we're committed
reprinted
actually i said we were but decided later there for your going to but i thought i'd bring it up because we can still talk about on the work of months next wednesday
so cash and the last one the palme no cash and in poonch all institution in the right
all that's how it works ok
check so the going to more meetings whispers hand
does anyone have any reaction to the head gets to
my reaction and i'm still working through it i have found needed to use the all the written so our animals or entities and import whatever reason i found males or can be tedious to on and seemed like there are so much richer justification and and then obviously we work in a standing desk
once during the work or work
the following the last for a few other things while
the charitable helping other try to fit that but everything i can work at know like
now like he didn't want to do honey of
earlier make you not to meet you and your label from pill he was a real workaholic but a lot of has worked with intellectual year was no joke
he didn't give the south of students are

well in he always had this priests with them in committee will discuss or acts next was may be a better tag would be for me to give my presentation on wednesday and then when you hear of in contacts there we can reflect on i want you reading now and maybe it'll make
more sense that
okay what a half an hour